Comments on: Keeping Marriage “Real”: California’s Prop 8 and Why You Are a Fascist If You Vote Yes on It. Yes, That’s Right, I Called You a Fascist. And Yeah, I’m Aware of the Historical Associations, But I’m Sticking with It. http://www.abdpbt.com/2008/10/21/keeping-marriage-real-californias-prop-8-and-why-you-are-a-fascist-if-you-vote-yes-on-it-yes-thats-right-i-called-you-a-fascist/ live. love. snark. Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:18:08 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Jen http://www.abdpbt.com/2008/10/21/keeping-marriage-real-californias-prop-8-and-why-you-are-a-fascist-if-you-vote-yes-on-it-yes-thats-right-i-called-you-a-fascist/comment-page-2/#comment-1066 Jen Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:30:11 +0000 http://www.abdpbt.com/?p=197#comment-1066 From that site "It protects our children from being taught in public schools that “same-sex marriage” is the same as traditional marriage," Really?? How is it not? It's a marriage b/w two loving and committed people. Ah, the joys of ignorance. My girls don't have any problems dealing with their 2 Papa's. I'm conservative on most issues but this one I don't agree with. Marriage is for everyone!!! I love the shirt! <abbr><em>Jen´s last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ALovelyRacket/~3/426959958/justice.html" rel="nofollow">Justice</a></abbr></em> From that site “It protects our children from being taught in public schools that “same-sex marriage” is the same as traditional marriage,”
Really?? How is it not? It’s a marriage b/w two loving and committed people. Ah, the joys of ignorance. My girls don’t have any problems dealing with their 2 Papa’s. I’m conservative on most issues but this one I don’t agree with. Marriage is for everyone!!!

I love the shirt!

Jen´s last blog post..Justice

]]> By: Mary Anna http://www.abdpbt.com/2008/10/21/keeping-marriage-real-californias-prop-8-and-why-you-are-a-fascist-if-you-vote-yes-on-it-yes-thats-right-i-called-you-a-fascist/comment-page-2/#comment-1055 Mary Anna Wed, 22 Oct 2008 02:02:39 +0000 http://www.abdpbt.com/?p=197#comment-1055 Amen, sister. I don't think I actually posted the , uh, post I started the other day about being asked to step into a leadership role in MOPS, a Christian-based moms' group that I've started attending since I left work. Anyway, I was told I'd have to attend a class to ensure that I uphold the doctrine of the church where we meet (which is not the church I attend - I'm one of those "Liberal Lutherans"). I scanned the church's website while I had the <strike>right-wing freak</strike> group member on the phone. I noticed there was nothing about homosexuality on there, so I stuck my nose in it and asked. After a 45-minute (give or take) lecture on how being gay is a sin, kinda like alcoholism, and that you can totally overcome that sin and ask for God's forgiveness - and that the church even has a workshop and "Life Group" just for those sinners ... needless to say, I gave her my two cents and declined. I received an email less than half an hour later informing me that I would not be a small-group leader and that I'd been given "Assistant Craft Leader" duties instead. Whatever, I'll rock those Christian Conservatives with my crafty ass. <abbr><em>Mary Anna´s last blog post..<a href="http://maryannag.blogspot.com/2008/10/first-there-was-evite.html" rel="nofollow">First There Was Evite ...</a></abbr></em> Amen, sister.

I don’t think I actually posted the , uh, post I started the other day about being asked to step into a leadership role in MOPS, a Christian-based moms’ group that I’ve started attending since I left work. Anyway, I was told I’d have to attend a class to ensure that I uphold the doctrine of the church where we meet (which is not the church I attend — I’m one of those “Liberal Lutherans”). I scanned the church’s website while I had the right-wing freak group member on the phone. I noticed there was nothing about homosexuality on there, so I stuck my nose in it and asked.

After a 45-minute (give or take) lecture on how being gay is a sin, kinda like alcoholism, and that you can totally overcome that sin and ask for God’s forgiveness — and that the church even has a workshop and “Life Group” just for those sinners … needless to say, I gave her my two cents and declined.

I received an email less than half an hour later informing me that I would not be a small-group leader and that I’d been given “Assistant Craft Leader” duties instead.

Whatever, I’ll rock those Christian Conservatives with my crafty ass.

Mary Anna´s last blog post..First There Was Evite …

]]> By: jenboglass (steenky bee) http://www.abdpbt.com/2008/10/21/keeping-marriage-real-californias-prop-8-and-why-you-are-a-fascist-if-you-vote-yes-on-it-yes-thats-right-i-called-you-a-fascist/comment-page-2/#comment-1054 jenboglass (steenky bee) Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:48:06 +0000 http://www.abdpbt.com/?p=197#comment-1054 I'll buy that shirt! <abbr><em>jenboglass (steenky bee)´s last blog post..<a href="http://steenkybee.blogspot.com/2008/10/this-post-was-supposed-to-be-about-how.html" rel="nofollow">This Post Was Supposed to be About How I Wanted to End Memes, But Then a Really Cool Chick Tagged Me So I Chickened Out.</a></abbr></em> I’ll buy that shirt!

jenboglass (steenky bee)´s last blog post..This Post Was Supposed to be About How I Wanted to End Memes, But Then a Really Cool Chick Tagged Me So I Chickened Out.

]]> By: KerrySS http://www.abdpbt.com/2008/10/21/keeping-marriage-real-californias-prop-8-and-why-you-are-a-fascist-if-you-vote-yes-on-it-yes-thats-right-i-called-you-a-fascist/comment-page-2/#comment-1053 KerrySS Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:11:08 +0000 http://www.abdpbt.com/?p=197#comment-1053 At least you live in California, where it will likely be defeated. Here in Wisconsin, 60% of the population voted for it, and now our constitution has successfully been amended to be more hateful. I have in-laws who have taught their kids terms like "fudgepacker" are acceptable. I grew up in California and moved here as an adult. I don't miss a lot about California, but I do miss living in a place where 60% of the people are willing to prevent other people from living like everyone else based on their own religious beliefs. I love that the fundies are fighting amongst themselves though. That cheered me right up. Mormons, Evangelicals...they all look alike to me. At least you live in California, where it will likely be defeated. Here in Wisconsin, 60% of the population voted for it, and now our constitution has successfully been amended to be more hateful. I have in-laws who have taught their kids terms like “fudgepacker” are acceptable.

I grew up in California and moved here as an adult. I don’t miss a lot about California, but I do miss living in a place where 60% of the people are willing to prevent other people from living like everyone else based on their own religious beliefs.

I love that the fundies are fighting amongst themselves though. That cheered me right up. Mormons, Evangelicals…they all look alike to me.

]]> By: anna http://www.abdpbt.com/2008/10/21/keeping-marriage-real-californias-prop-8-and-why-you-are-a-fascist-if-you-vote-yes-on-it-yes-thats-right-i-called-you-a-fascist/comment-page-2/#comment-1052 anna Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:22:59 +0000 http://www.abdpbt.com/?p=197#comment-1052 Ask, and you shall receive! Announcing the Official ABDPBT "YES ON H8" T-shirt: http://www.cafepress.com/abdpbt.319861194 Ask, and you shall receive! Announcing the Official ABDPBT “YES ON H8” T-shirt:

http://www.cafepress.com/abdpbt.319861194

]]> By: anna http://www.abdpbt.com/2008/10/21/keeping-marriage-real-californias-prop-8-and-why-you-are-a-fascist-if-you-vote-yes-on-it-yes-thats-right-i-called-you-a-fascist/comment-page-2/#comment-1051 anna Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:14:44 +0000 http://www.abdpbt.com/?p=197#comment-1051 Really, @Robert?! Thanks for keeping us in the know. I'll pass that on to my "evangelical" readers--oh wait, I don' t have any. Never mind. Keep on keepin' it real. Really, @Robert?! Thanks for keeping us in the know. I’ll pass that on to my “evangelical” readers–oh wait, I don’ t have any. Never mind. Keep on keepin’ it real.

]]> By: Robert http://www.abdpbt.com/2008/10/21/keeping-marriage-real-californias-prop-8-and-why-you-are-a-fascist-if-you-vote-yes-on-it-yes-thats-right-i-called-you-a-fascist/comment-page-2/#comment-1050 Robert Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:03:45 +0000 http://www.abdpbt.com/?p=197#comment-1050 Some Evangelicals are starting to realize they’ve been duped and are recommending a <a href="http://www.baytzim.com" rel="nofollow">no vote on Prop 8</a> Some Evangelicals are starting to realize they’ve been duped and are recommending a no vote on Prop 8

]]> By: Amy http://www.abdpbt.com/2008/10/21/keeping-marriage-real-californias-prop-8-and-why-you-are-a-fascist-if-you-vote-yes-on-it-yes-thats-right-i-called-you-a-fascist/comment-page-2/#comment-1049 Amy Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:22:10 +0000 http://www.abdpbt.com/?p=197#comment-1049 I'm with your other commenters - I don't quite understand why it matters who gets married. My best friend got married a couple of weeks ago (all gay-like, in West Hollywood, even), and my hetero marriage did not fall apart as they said their vows. I'm guessing yours didn't either, and you're much closer to the gay marriages than I am. I just want to ask people how their marriage has changed since June when the gay marriages started. Do they have less sex with their spouse? Does he do the dishes more? Did god smite you? How has it changed your life? <abbr><em>Amy´s last blog post..<a href="http://www.gazellesoncrack.com/2008/10/race-report.html" rel="nofollow">Race Report</a></abbr></em> I’m with your other commenters — I don’t quite understand why it matters who gets married. My best friend got married a couple of weeks ago (all gay-like, in West Hollywood, even), and my hetero marriage did not fall apart as they said their vows. I’m guessing yours didn’t either, and you’re much closer to the gay marriages than I am.

I just want to ask people how their marriage has changed since June when the gay marriages started. Do they have less sex with their spouse? Does he do the dishes more? Did god smite you? How has it changed your life?

Amy´s last blog post..Race Report

]]> By: Sprite's Keeper http://www.abdpbt.com/2008/10/21/keeping-marriage-real-californias-prop-8-and-why-you-are-a-fascist-if-you-vote-yes-on-it-yes-thats-right-i-called-you-a-fascist/comment-page-2/#comment-1048 Sprite's Keeper Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:22:02 +0000 http://www.abdpbt.com/?p=197#comment-1048 I am high fiving my screen right now! Now if only you could find a shirt to print this rant on, start distributing! <abbr><em>Sprite's Keeper´s last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/SpritesKeeper/~3/425444772/hair-apparent.html" rel="nofollow">Hair Apparent</a></abbr></em> I am high fiving my screen right now!
Now if only you could find a shirt to print this rant on, start distributing!

Sprite’s Keeper´s last blog post..Hair Apparent

]]> By: Toe http://www.abdpbt.com/2008/10/21/keeping-marriage-real-californias-prop-8-and-why-you-are-a-fascist-if-you-vote-yes-on-it-yes-thats-right-i-called-you-a-fascist/comment-page-2/#comment-1047 Toe Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:36:35 +0000 http://www.abdpbt.com/?p=197#comment-1047 I was talking to Gimp yesterday about this issue. She was appalled that I might support homosexual marriage. She said "What about what they do?" I told her this was not the only reason to get married. Most deals with the law aspect. Spouses get more rights than just some person you live with. What if you were seriously ill or hurt and your spouse could not even visit you in the hospital or take care of your finances while you were incapacitated. We take a lot of the literal stuff for granted. Marriage is a contract to share life and responsibilities, there is no place for religious beliefs in this proposition. A lot of people over look that fact and press their own beliefs. These people are ignorant. <abbr><em>Toe´s last blog post..<a href="http://brazenbaretoe.blogspot.com/2008/10/stink-challenge.html" rel="nofollow">A Stink & A Challenge</a></abbr></em> I was talking to Gimp yesterday about this issue. She was appalled that I might support homosexual marriage. She said “What about what they do?” I told her this was not the only reason to get married. Most deals with the law aspect. Spouses get more rights than just some person you live with. What if you were seriously ill or hurt and your spouse could not even visit you in the hospital or take care of your finances while you were incapacitated. We take a lot of the literal stuff for granted. Marriage is a contract to share life and responsibilities, there is no place for religious beliefs in this proposition. A lot of people over look that fact and press their own beliefs. These people are ignorant.

Toe´s last blog post..A Stink & A Challenge

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