Considerations For The Online Border Personality

by anna on September 30, 2009

Photo by Marcy Climtero

Photo by Marcy Climtero

Part I: Dooce View definition in a new window, You Are A Bully View definition in a new window

This past Sunday evening, everybody’s favorite mommyblogger, Dooce, confronted one of her many (alleged) online detractors by alerting her 1.3 million Twitter followers to the (alleged) detractor’s Flickr page, which contains the (alleged) detractor’s real name and photos of the (alleged) detractor. Though I was on Twitter at the time that this happened, I was never able to figure out exactly what prompted this, but I would assume it involved another onslaught of hate mail that Dooce had received and posted on the new section of her site, Monetizing the Hate.

Dooce has been flexing her Twitter muscles quite a bit lately. First, she leveraged her Twitter power to get better customer service, and shortly after that, she used Twitter to intervene in the search for a missing person, which sounds altruistic but in reality (allegedly) caused some problems when the Phoenix Police Department was overrun with mostly useless phone calls from Dooce’s 1.3 million followers. Up until this point, Dooce’s twitter habits have interested me chiefly from a business standpoint, because I have wondered to what degree this would impact her online brand, if at all, and I figured that it is hard to have power and not use it, not to want to play with it a little bit, especially if it is new. New celebrities often go through a stage where they are not particularly savvy with how they deal with the media, and public opinion of them often grows as they learn how to set boundaries with the media and rules for how they will use their fame.

Which is to say that I gave Dooce the benefit of the doubt when, in the wake of Maytag View definition in a new window-gate, she argued that she is not a bully (as some people have claimed) and that the Maytag incident was a result of exhaustion, and the Bloggess View definition in a new window incident was just a misunderstanding. I am willing to accept that having a newborn might make you go apeshit on a broken washer, and even if I was dubious about the apology to the Bloggess, I thought that it was better late than never. Even when she started Monetizing the Hate, it did not bother me, because I figured that Dooce being able to expose and profit from all of her hate mail was kind of poetic justice, even if the site gave me the willies with all the Google Ads and the incorrect usages of “It’s” in the entries. But I must admit that I’ve been thinking we’re watching a public nervous breakdown lately, and the SHINGLES video did not help to silence my fears that Dooce might be in need of some professional help. But after looking at the hate section of her site, and feeling bad, and feeling like I needed a shower, I felt like, yeah, I can see how having that stuff directed at you might drive you a little bit crazy.

That said, after her actions on Sunday, Dooce, if she plans to “own who [she is] and what [she says] and what [she does],” then I expect to see a post from her acknowledging that: 1) she IS, as it turns out, a bully; 2) that she knowingly sicked her readership on three different women on Sunday night (first the woman with the Flickr page, then at least two other people who told her they thought she should stop dwelling on the hate mail); and 3) she did these things because of her own hurt feelings, not to “speak up for other bloggers,” or to demonstrate that she’s intolerant of “woman-on-woman” hate, as she suggested. Because “bullying” is the only way to describe the behavior of somebody in power who tweets this:

sendherhugs

when she knows not only that she has a large and devoted following, but that she has a large and devoted following consisting of people like this:

shitwillrain

or this:

fuckthatbitch

or this

notreproducing

or this:
knickers

Or the people who visited this woman’s blog:
lisamccray

There are so many insane responses, in fact, to that one tweet by Dooce, that I had to create a whole page just to accommodate some of them.

Dooce’s brand has always been about doing her own thing, fuck the consequences. I get that. But if my family were dependent upon the income I made from my online brand, I would stop reading my hate mail as soon as it started making me do things like this. Because the way that bullies are created is by being bullied themselves, and all that bad juju that Dooce gets from reading those sites that hate her and hate her kids and think her husband is gay, et cetera, they are making her into a mean person. And maybe there’s a market for mean people blogs, I don’t know, but it just seems like there is a reason that we don’t read stuff like this from Oprah Winfrey or Jennifer Aniston — it’s not that they don’t get hate mail, or that they are exceptionally good at dealing with it, it’s that they know that they need to hire somebody to go through their mail for them so that they’re not exposed to this stuff. And when I say “hire somebody,” I mean a professional person who deals with this stuff all the time, not your husband (because he is worse), and not the assistant, because she is also too close to you to do this well. There have to be services that exist for this purpose, because all celebrities do it with fan mail and so do high ranking corporate officials. Find those professionals and get their help. Google is your friend, if you let it be.

Part II: The Bitch of It Is, I’m Kind Of a Bully Myself. But I’m Trying Hard Not To Be

Back when I was teaching, I would get angry emails from my students several times a quarter, like clockwork, after turning back a graded paper to them. Inevitably, somebody in the class would feel that I had failed to recognize their compare-and-contrast submission for the masterpiece of rhetoric that it was and, having been inspired by Clueless, wanted to use their stellar skills of negotiation to convince me to give them a higher grade. I despised these kinds of emails, because they were often hostile and almost always necessitated some kind of in-person consultation in which I went through the motions of hearing their points and then, ultimately, decided to keep the original grade anyway. It was part of my job to deal with this stuff, and as an underpaid PhD candidate it made me resentful.

At the time, my sponsor would always tell me that when you get bad news, particularly in the form of an email, you should “take three deep breaths and not do anything.” She would say to get away from the computer and do your best to forget about the email for a while, and then deal with it when you had a cooler head. This is not to say that you should completely ignore the criticism, but rather that you just put off your response until you have recovered from the sting of hearing it. This is good advice, because when dealing with an angry person, the best thing you can do for them is to get angry back: it serves to justify their disdain for you and bolster their efforts to piss you off. And ignoring them will probably make them more angry, and even if it doesn’t, it’s bound to drive you crazy if you’re tasked with ignoring large volumes of criticism, even when it’s not constructive. Whenever you can react to criticism or negativity with understanding — even if it is feigned — you can shorten the disagreement exponentially and possibly even win the person over to your side. And also, you never know when that criticism might lead to your own growth.

Unfortunately, it is very hard to remember that you need to take three deep breaths and not do anything in the heat of the moment. Which is why on Friday night, I was disappointed with myself for reacting to a negative comment on my a post of mine. I think every blogger has their own set of pet peeves when dealing with criticism, and for some reason I am most bothered when the criticism I receive stems from some aspect of my writing that seems unimportant or superfluous to the meaning of the post or my overall gestalt. We can debate the origins of this — not enough tummy time as a baby? who knows — but I bring it up only to point out that by looking at the various times I have been criticized and had an exaggerated reaction, I’ve been able to discern a pattern for things that will set me off.

Why does this matter? Well, for one thing, I consider myself to be an online brand, and so therefore, every interaction I have with a reader is a potential “sale,” in the form of gaining a new reader or losing a subscriber. This doesn’t mean that I need to kiss people’s asses or take crap from someone unnecessarily, but I don’t want to have a business model where I’m being a dickhead to all of my customers and expect that they will just keep coming back because of the cool factor. Because I offer a product, yes, but the quality of my product is only one part of the consumer experience. And social media, like it or not, is about being social and developing connections with people. I cannot do that if I am always angry about some new criticism floating around about me.

So what happened on Friday night was that I read an email from a reader that criticized something totally unimportant to the overall meaning of my post, in my estimation as the post’s author. The thing is — and it took Mr. Right-Click and I discussing this as we waited in line to see Surrogates, which is a craptastic movie, by the way, for me to see the fact that this criticism offered me an opportunity for my own growth. What I finally saw was that what I consider to be relevant to the post is only one factor in the equation, because writing sets off a new set of meanings for each new person who reads a post. I might consider what this reader said to be unimportant, but this is social media, and what she said was important to her, and possibly to many others out there. And most importantly, if I want to be an online personality, to monetize my life and my writing for public consumption, I need those people to have an opinion, good or bad, on what I say and do. That is my business.

I don’t have to deal with the kind of criticism that Dooce deals with, and I can only guess how well I’d handle it. It is easy for me to say that I would be more graceful under that kind of fire, but the truth is that I don’t have any good reason to believe that I would be. But since I’m viewing this behavior from the outside, I can say that I don’t see Dooce’s recent Twitter behavior as being good for her brand. I think that it is turning off some of the more reasonable people in her audience and sticking her with the crazies and the trolls. And even if it’s a lucrative venture to do this, are these the kind of people you want floating around in your universe? Being a brand online presents unique challenges, and those of use who are still building our brand get to benefit from watching Dooce’s experience as she figures out how to negotiate this brave new world. For that, I’m grateful — but I still think you need to get your shit together.

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Angie [A Whole Lot of Nothing] September 30, 2009 at 7:48 am

NUTS, I wish I could get my thoughts out and written like you can.

That said, I have to respect what Heather B has done with her ‘brand’ up until now. She is one of the pioneers of our Web 2.0 (I hate that term) lives, and for that, she deserves my respect.

Recently, however, I’ve notice a crumbling in the facade (intentional or not). It’s like the old adage: “With great power comes great responsibility.” When you wield the power she has on the internet and off, you have a responsibility to set an example for your admirers and for your detractors. She has the power to show all of us (those who respect her and those who don’t) what we are capable of doing online. By ‘using her powers for evil’ she’s proving the point of all the trolls and douches and nutters that it’s OK to bully another person with a quick 140-character attack.

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anna September 30, 2009 at 8:14 am

Oh, I absolutely respect what she has done. I just don’t respect her behavior lately. It isn’t responsible or a good example for the people in her audience who aren’t insane.

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E. September 30, 2009 at 7:49 am

Excellent post. Armstrong Media is a company. I think they may have lost sight of that.

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anna September 30, 2009 at 8:16 am

I think that up until this point, dooce has been able to do things her way and be rewarded for it, which is great. But this is moving into a different realm of celebrity now, and it may be time to get help from people who have experience with this kind of thing.

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That Haggard Bitch September 30, 2009 at 8:48 am

As THAT person targeted in Sunday’s attack I can say this: What I did to piss that woman off is as much a mystery to me as everyone else. Did I post a couple rude and inconsiderate comments on her site? Absolutely. Did I sent her “hate mail,” harass her, abuse her, or so much as even AKNOWLEDGE any other woman, mommy or blogger? Absolutely not. Those were all lies made up after the attack to justify her decision to “out” me.

I don’t have a blog, and I certainly don’t have 1.3 million followers at my disposal to retaliate with. What I DO have is several personal threats, a lot of new-found stalkers, my first and last name all over the internet, and Jon Armstrong accusing me of throwing the N word at someone (the person who did so, I might add, was clearly doing so on dooce’s “behalf,” and while I’m sure she was just as mortified by this as everyone else, Jon’s decision to imply that I would do this to bolster my side of the conflict is insane.)

Thank you for this article. I’ve said this to Heather and Jon (though you won’t read it on Monetizing the Hate): What I’ve said, I own. Did I leave those comments she’s labeled with my name? Most of them, but not all. Would I say it to her face? You betcha. Did I harass, abuse or otherwise hate anyone, in ANY other way? Hell no. Would I call someone the N word? Never in a million years. The line has to be drawn. She’s officially crossed it.

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anna September 30, 2009 at 10:12 am

I don’t want to weigh in on which comments were made by whom, because there’s no way for me to know what’s true and what’s not, I haven’t followed this stuff closely enough. But I do think that linking to your Flickr page, whether you made any comments or not, is unacceptable behavior in a leader of a community. They have the ability to sort mail, ban IPs, etc. if the criticism is too much to bear without these kinds of outbursts. I wish they would consider using these options.

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maddy September 30, 2009 at 7:37 pm

Anna, I wasn’t talking about bloggers or hate sites. I was talking about a running commentary for the past 4 years from a group of individuals who are no longer bloggers. They are known for trying to control and hurt people through harrassment and then making fun of the same people for being upset.

That Haggard Bitch
You attacked and bullied dooce many many times before she ever responded to you. You bragged about being on the hate page. You have attacked her in ways you would never stand for yourself. She has not said anything to you even close to as hurtful as what you have said over the months and years. You seem to do this to entertain yourself and your friends. You did it thinking you were protected, which is ugly and sick. You have said things many times that indicated that you felt righteous in doing it.

Stop minimizing what you did and stop pretending to be the “victim”. Stop lying about what you did. People are not stupid, blind or forgetful.

You are not more human or deserving of fair treatment than dooce or anyone else.

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anna September 30, 2009 at 8:08 pm

Interesting, Maddy. I don’t know anything about these individuals, which is a big concern because if I don’t know about them, then I kind of doubt it’s a super well-known thing. And justified or not, if there’s some kind of vigilante justice going on, you’d better hope that your audience can piece together why this is happening. Right now, it looks like somebody in a position of power bullying people by using her following. So if the circumstances are different, it seems like perhaps they should expose it in its entirety, rather than just letting little bits escape.

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Laurin (@LaurinEvans) September 30, 2009 at 9:12 am

“I think that it is turning off some of the more reasonable people in her audience and sticking her with the crazies and the trolls.”

I couldn’t agree more. I consider myself to be a reasonable person. I consider my internet friends to be reasonable people. We are all scratching our heads and wondering who is “Dooce” really? I am incredibly turned off.

Is it just an unhinged persona she is crafting lately for monetary gain or is she in trouble? I wonder. I used to think she was at least pretty real, but I don’t trust this new phase. Is that good for her brand either way? Probably. I know I wouldn’t want the pressure of being anything other than real, no matter how much money came my way. Seems exhausting and I do hope she is okay.

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anna September 30, 2009 at 10:14 am

I do think that things have escalated lately, though some will argue that she has always been this way, built her brand on it. I think the difference is that in the beginning, when she wrote about people and was fired for it, that was an instance of her being bullied, or her thought being censored. Now she’s the one doing the censorship, which is particularly uncool IMO.

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meowsk September 30, 2009 at 9:15 am

I completely agree with you on this one. So well put! I used to admire dooce but given recent events and how she treated me even when I was a fan I have given up reading her site and any other media she puts out there. Truly I think the problem lies in trying to keep work and home separate when you plaster stories and photos about your life all over the Internet. This is why celebrities play characters and keep thier personal lives private. The desparation as of late has really damaged their company’s image and to be honest I am enjoying watching the Armstrong empire collapse.

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anna September 30, 2009 at 10:16 am

I think that there are boundaries you can set, even when you are writing about your real life on the internet. I try to do that for myself and so far it has worked out OK, and there are many public figures that do the same. Watching the Obamas safeguard their kids from the press sets a good example for this sort of thing, I think.

I don’t know that the Armstrong empire is collapsing necessarily. But these actions will alter it and its audience irrevocably. And if that’s OK with them, then cool, carry on. But if they want to keep some of the more reasonable folks around, I think that they may have to rethink things a bit.

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Avoiceofmyown September 30, 2009 at 9:19 am

So well put. Thanks for writing this. I’ve been watching this drama unfold over the last few weeks on twitter. Being a follower of both parties mentioned in your post and it’s annoying. I don’t know if one of the individuals is really spiteful, or just having fun. I’d like to think they have a really sarcastic view on life.

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anna September 30, 2009 at 10:21 am

I think that she absolutely has a sarcastic view on life — it’s one of the reasons I’ve been a fan of her site! But it’s important to be conscious of your influence, especially as it grows.

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Angela September 30, 2009 at 9:35 am

Interesting analysis of what may ultimately be the undoing of a recognized online brand. Thanks for writing it.

I’ve been a follower of Dooce’s blog since the birth of her first child. What drew me in was the similarity to my own background (conservative church-going upbringing; dealing with the family repercussions of saying, “religion? meh”; impending birth of first child, etc.) written in a funny, engaging voice that made me feel like someone else understands what it’s like.

Twitter has sort of ruined all of that for me.

At first it was the bizarre bitchings about Maytag. Multiple times a day. When @dooce tweets used to come along only a few times a month. I sort of felt like someone was mustering an anti-Maytag army to which I did not remember volunteering. Then the Amber alerts. When did I sign up to get these? Then the “let’s send her hugs” tweet which to this day makes no sense to me. And the “monetizing the hate” section of her site: could have been funny, but it just comes off as sour grapes. Like 1.29 million people telling you they love you isn’t enough.

The whole think has made me reexamine whether I really need to grant this person an audience. I sort of feel misused. Perhaps her brand is indeed evolving, but it’s evolving into something I’m not interested in being a part of.

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anna September 30, 2009 at 10:22 am

Yes, it might be changing, and as you change you lose people and gain others. This might be what they want, I’m not really sure. But I thought I’d just point out that this is what is happening, in case they did not realize it.

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TheAitch September 30, 2009 at 9:42 am

I think this was well written and I pretty much loved what you have said here. I used to be head over heels with dooce and her letters to Leta made me cry they were so lovely. But something strange happened that made my love for her disappear. We were both suffering from PPD around the same time and while she was getting help for hers I was just recognizing the signs of my own and I reached out to her many times. I never ever got a response. She was the only person I knew who was suffering like I was and I was desperately searching for some kind words or something of the sort, some sort of direction I guess. It never came. Of course I brushed it off, I mean why was I important?

But then over the course of all the dramas surrounding her the following years it became clear that dooce was always focused on herself, her own negativity and her own world and really in the grand scheme of things no matter how many fans she has or how many people loved her brand she just didn’t care one iota about them. Oh, she acts like she does and she acts like she’s so in touch with reality but she is not. Funny thing is, in the end I actually got a response from a real celebrity about PPD. Someone who took the time out of her world to lend me a word of support.

The last straw for me and any hope I had for liking dooce was her incident with the blogess. That was the straw. Dooce IS a bully, period. And she just seems to be getting worse. I mean, why is she allowed to attack people like she does? You don’t see John Mayer telling his fans to attack people on their flickr pages, why should she?

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anna September 30, 2009 at 10:24 am

I think not responding to her emails has caused her some grief over the years. I know her volume of mail is huge, so I hate to judge on that, but it seems like there are quite a few situations out there that might have been diffused by a quick thank-you email or just an acknowledgment. It’s tough to say, though, because she is definitely controversial.

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Renegade Moms September 30, 2009 at 9:44 am

You are absolutely correct in your summation of Dooce and her behavior. However, this is not new news. Dooce has been known throughout the blogosphere as a bully for quite some time now. What has happened lately is she is feeling a little big for her britches and feels more comfortable doing the stuff she has been doing all along in a more open forum (ie: twitter Tourettes). The truth is she knows her brand is fading and like anything in the media fads change. There are some fantastic “mom-bloggers” out there and they are all developing their own followings and getting recognition; I think this is difficult for her to accept. She has the right to be upset, but sicking her attack sheep on people is not acceptable.

We have been the recipient of her fantatics and we get horrible comments on our site but unlike the women on twitter who were not positioned to defend themselves, we are. Honestly we get hate mail, we get hate comments and they seriously do not bother us in the least. We signed up for this and we accept all that comes with it, the good ad the bad. They do not deter us from doing what we do, they don’t make us cry or feel vengeful. Honestly, most of the time they make us laugh and we publish each and every one. Our comments are always open to everyone.

The mistake Dooce made was she closes her comments (or only allows the nice ones) then she takes the comments that are negative and plucks out the bits and pieces that make her look like a victim and put them on her site so she can “roll around naked in the money”. It wouldn’t be annoying if it were just the comments from her site and her email like she claimed they were but the truth is she lied her ass off. She went around the internet to other people’s sites (ours included) and stole comments from those pages (mostly pooponpeeps) then put them on her MTH site claiming they came to her directly. (she will probably come copy/paste this one too! Hi heather!) I think that is pretty pathetic and this victim act of hers is tiresome. That is why we started the doocefans site where we took all the nice things people say about her and all the mean stuff they say to us and others and did the same thing. It was a spoof to show her and her sheep how stupid and ridiculous they are. We also gave full credit to the sites we got them from (unlike dooce).
Heather made the conscious choice to put her and her family out there for public scrutiny so she cannot be mad at anyone but herself if not everyone likes her and if people dare to criticize the mighty dooce. You know the saying….she made her bed.

For the record: What we write about Dooce makes up less than 8% of our work and we love what we do and stand behind what we write. We don’t bully anyone but we do exercise our First Amendment Right to publicly criticize a public figure. Renegade Moms will not be bullied and we will be around for awhile.
Thanks for the great piece you wrote and thank you for the space and time to be heard. See ya’ around in the blogosphere.
~Renegade Moms

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anna September 30, 2009 at 10:29 am

Glad you liked the post. I think there are some distinctions to be made between hate mail you receive and the hate mail she receives, namely that it is regarding her personal life, which ups the ante quite a bit. But I really don’t want to get involved in that particular war, it’s not my thing. What I am talking about is more just the marginalization of individuals for sport that I see going on lately.

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maddy October 1, 2009 at 6:18 am

dooce never said she received the hate directly. Re-read this article ‘Yo mama said you ugly’
“Collect all the crap that people say about you, put it on a single page, and then litter the entire thing with ads.”

Again, I’m not saying I agree, but I think people are re-writing history here.

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maddy October 1, 2009 at 6:23 am

‘marginalization of individuals for sport’ – this is exactly what I was saying the woman dooce outed has been doing for years. Again, she bragged about being on the hate page and said she was enjoying it.

I get that dooce is a brand but she is also a person.

I don’t support what dooce is doing, I don’t like Jon’s responses to things, and I think if I were in their shoes, I would either ignore it all or call it quits.

But there is a resistance even here in these comments to consider that dooce is also a person, not just a brand.

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anna October 1, 2009 at 8:55 am

It’s tough to agree with you without knowing what you are talking about and where it was spoken. I understand that the woman who was outed has mail attributed to her on the hate page. I get that part. But I don’t know what you are talking about with the four years of badgering, etc. I also don’t really understand how you can bully someone who is more powerful than you are. You can be an ass, make their life miserable, send them hate mail, but it’s not as if she has 1.3 million followers who can be sent to terrorize you.

I understand that dooce is a brand and Heather is a person. I think I acknowledged that in my post. I stand by my criticism of this behavior, though. You can continue to view it as unfair, but this is the way many people looking in from the outside are going to see it. So now, the question is how to handle it, not to hair split over whether it’s fair or not. Just my opinion, of course.

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Kerry October 1, 2009 at 9:21 am

Here’s what I don’t get about that: if your goal is to “shine a light on the rats,” wouldn’t you spell it out? Like, instead of posting some chick’s picture, you’d say, “There’s this chick named Jane Doe. In 2005 she started a site called whatever.com. She said this, then she said this, then she said this. In 2006 she did this. In 2007 she did this.” Because if there was, indeed, a four-year period of constant harassment by a gang, I’d be sympathetic. I really would. In fact, in terms of the stuff I’ve actually witnessed, I’m VERY sympathetic. But this…this is just some nameless person telling me some other nameless people talked some smack sometimes. I can’t get on board until I see specifically what this smack looked like, y’know?

In pondering this whole thing, I’m wondering if this is maybe the intentional end for Dooce the brand. When you have a job like Heather does, it’s hard to just quit. You don’t go in and give your two weeks notice like a regular person. You feel an obligation to your family, because this is how you feed them, and to your readers (some of them anyway), because they supported you. Plus, you’re a big deal, you’re famous, you’re on Bonnie Hunt (who I’ve never heard of, and whose show I’ve still never seen–who is this chick anyway). It’s hard to quit a thing like that. And sometimes, when people hate their job but feel they can’t quit, they consciously or unconsciously do little things to self-destruct, so that the decision will be made for them.

I’m no shrink, and I’ve never met Dooce, and I feel a little bad for trying to psychoanalyze these people. But I wouldn’t want her job (even for $40K/month). I’d want out at some point. And really, if you think about it…it has to end sometime anyway. This isn’t like being an accountant; you can’t be Dooce for 40 years and then retire. No pop star lasts that long…and the ones who try get weird at the end (like Michael Jackson, or Madonna, or Brett Favre). So how do you get out? Do you just stop posting? Few people have the balls to do that. If you’re as big as she is, it’s hard.

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anna October 1, 2009 at 10:59 am

Yes, exactly! When Dooce posted the link to the flickr page, I was like, “Are we going to get some context? Will there be another link, where do I go to find out what happened?” And I don’t know how to find that out. She said something about people “scrambling to hide themselves” and I was like, “Huh?” To feel sympathetic, I need to know what she’s talking about.

Maybe she is trying to self-destruct. I don’t know. But I tend to think that she’s just kind of operating on the theory that doing whatever she wanted to do has worked for her in the past.

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Deb on the Rocks September 30, 2009 at 10:14 am

It’s all become grotesque, hasn’t it?

(Your title is a wonder. A wonder!)

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anna September 30, 2009 at 10:29 am

[bows]

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Phil September 30, 2009 at 10:32 am

Here’s the thing that no one is talking about-
Internet celebrity is a new thing- uncharted territory. There is nobody who has experienced it before who can teach them how to deal with it. Heather and Jon are real and human. I don’t agree with everything they do, just like I don’t agree with everything anyone does. They make mistakes. They are however, good, decent people. They are learning how to deal with their level of celebrity as they go along. Celebrities usually have a buffer between them and the people who spew hate. They don’t. I honestly don’t know how they deal with it- the constant hate and criticism. Heather could say the sky is blue and people would find fault with it. I agree that there should be somebody who sorts through their mail, but that wouldn’t solve the entire problem. If she looks at the @’s on Twitter she will see hate. If she has a Google alert for her name she will see hate. It’s impossible to avoid unless she stays away from the computer, which is obviously unrealistic.

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anna September 30, 2009 at 10:38 am

@phil, absolutely. That’s what I’m trying to say: dooce is a pioneer, I get it, but she is handling it badly. Somebody has to say it to her if she is to find out and try to change things for the better. Because the “hate” people have no credibility with her, and it’s hard to see it from the inside. I am coming from a place of wanting her to succeed. I want her brand to continue to grow and be strong. I like her blog. I don’t like her behavior lately, and I think somebody has to tell her this in a reasonable, calm way. She needs to have filters. There are filters available: she can block IPs, she can hire somebody to go through mail, she can block herself from the hate sites. She can also attempt to engage her most vehement critics in a constructive way — most of them will go away if they just get an email back from her. People are shallow and needy. They just want to be acknowledged. It’s like signing an autograph. She may not have set out to be this kind of celebrity, but she is now and she’s taking the money. If she wants the money to continue and not have a nervous breakdown, I think she needs to reconsider her approach.

Also, I actually have been talking about the fact that online celebrity is new and uncharted — here, for example.

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Jennifer September 30, 2009 at 11:17 am

Very well put. I used to be a fan of the Dooce site, but lately it feels like entering a war zone. As soon as I begin reading I feel I need to pick a side. It feels like there are subtle references in each post trying to get the upper hand on the “haters”. I miss the way she used to write. I started to back away from the site when that strange rambling email was posted (written by a fan). Then, when the Monetizing the Hate page went up the first thing I thought of was the fact that she is a business. If I was a sponsor I would not want my name next to all those horrible messages. THEN, when it became clear that she was taking most of those comments from other sites, I started to worry about her as a person.

I think it is important to mention Jon’s role in all of this. As you have. I’m assuming that he is the person who filmed the Shingles video and later posted on his own blog with the title “I Like Mine More than a Little Crazy”. If that is the branding you want to go for, I guess it’s their right. I just think it’s sad that a person who has been so open with mental illness, who has helped so many other with the same plight, has a husband who mocks the condition.

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anna September 30, 2009 at 1:12 pm

You bring up a good point that I did not entertain enough above, this might all be intentional, it might all be part of the brand they want to build. And if so, I guess it’s working. I’m just a little confused as to why they would invite that into their lives.

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Kerry September 30, 2009 at 1:26 pm

If this is intentional, I’ll be very disappointed. It doesn’t feel intentional to me though.

You know, Leta just started school this fall. I wonder if that’s part of the story. My daughter started school this fall as well, and all of a sudden, I’m far more conscious of the fact that she’s out in the world, and that the world has a lot more influence on her. She’s coming home with new sayings and new points of view that didn’t come from us, and it’s unsettling. She’s learning how to use a computer (in kindergarten!), and I’m starting to realize that it won’t be long before she can read everything anyone’s ever said about herself or her family on the internet. For me, that’s not a big deal, but for Heather…well, my god, some of the stuff people have said about Leta…I can’t imagine what it’s like to know your child will see those things. I can roll with it to some extent when people talk smack about me, but if people were talking about my child like that, I’d go apeshit.

I wonder if Leta’s going out into the real world has driven home the fact that that day is coming, and they’re reacting to that. I wouldn’t blame them for being angry. Maybe their thinking is that the poor kid is going to see this stuff either way, and they need to show her somehow that they tried to defend her, or avenge her, or something.

I’m not agreeing with the approach…I just know I would not make rational decisions if people were putting some of those things out there with my child’s name on them.

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anna September 30, 2009 at 2:13 pm

Ooh, that’s a good point, Kerry. I don’t know. I mean, even just having her read what her mom has written would require, at the very least, a family discussion of some kind and probably some kind of fallout.

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Eliz September 30, 2009 at 1:40 pm

@Jennifer – I hadn’t realized it but I feel the same way every time I go to her site, unconsciously ready to either pick a side or try to decipher who she’s taking a shot at today. It’s all become very “inside baseball” – I don’t know if someone who hasn’t followed either her site for years or all the hullabaloo on Twitter would be able to follow along.

I can give Heather a wide berth when criticizing her, since I’ve never suffered from PPD nor am I in her position, the target of such vicious hate, but I have to say that Jon’s behavior is outside the bounds. I’m sure it’s tough to watch your wife be attacked but he picks up his pitchfork with a sort of glee that I find disturbing.

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anna September 30, 2009 at 2:14 pm

I think he likes to protect her, but he definitely makes it worse. A lot worse.

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Mari September 30, 2009 at 2:31 pm

Oh I completely agree about Jon contributing to the problem. I don’t understand why he engages people in ridiculous tit-for-tat arguments on Twitter. I understand he’s protective of his wife, but his actions appear to escalate the negative comments about her. It makes me wonder if Armstrong Media would be better off with an objective employee running the business end of things, rather than Jon Armstrong who has far too much of a hair-trigger temper.

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anna October 1, 2009 at 8:56 am

I have to assume that he does it with Heather’s permission. Because it’s inevitable that his behavior is going to reflect on her, and I would assume she would try to clamp that down if it really was totally repugnant to her. But this is all conjecture.

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TheAitch September 30, 2009 at 11:18 am

Yes, but she only seems to recognize the hate mail. What about those who looked up to her, liked her? Like me a recovering dooce addict? For every 1 piece of hate mail, I’m sure she gets a dozen ones that love her. Why not focus on some of those? I mean you don’t have to post all of them but when someone genuinely is thanking her for something she needs to acknowledge that side for once. Maybe if she were more a positive person she wouldnt be hated so much?

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anna September 30, 2009 at 1:13 pm

I’m hesitant to instruct people to look at the positive stuff because I know how hard that is. I personally have a hard time looking at the good stuff and dwell on the negative endlessly. But I know that is one of my weaknesses, it’s not something I try to indulge.

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Eliz September 30, 2009 at 11:19 am

Yes, yes, yes and yes. I thought her brand took a hit from the Maytag debacle, and I assumed that the sudden and otherwise unexplainable apology to the Bloggess as well as her new chattiness on Twitter meant that she understood she needed to do some damage control in the wake of being called a bully. But, sadly, she’s bullying it up even more. This might have been the worst time for her to start her Hate site. My theory is that while it is sweet justice to make money from her hate mail, it’s too much for her emotionally. If she’s going to continue with the Hate site she needs to divorce herself from it completely – pay someone to put the content up and never look at it.

I also think at some point – depending how revenues are going – she might want to do the same with Jon. Phase him out completely. He’s like an irresponsible frat boy egging everyone on with his Tweets. If he is going to continue to be part of the family biz, he needs to take a less public role. Like, a no-public role.

Despite her happiness with the newborn, she might have a touch of PPD or at least some hormonal peaks and valleys. (I’m not at all suggesting she’s not as happy as she claims with her new daughter, but come on, the lady did just have a baby and she does have a history of PPD. It’s a transition time for the whole household. The same household where she runs her business.)

I know it’s not directly related, but I feel that the sudden appearance of @ihatemommyblogs on Twitter is responsible for the situation this past weekend.

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anna September 30, 2009 at 1:16 pm

Yeah, I don’t know the whole @ihatemommyblogs story, I had never heard of her until dooce sent out that tweet. I’m still a little confused about how the whole thing started, actually.

It might be worth mentioning that her traffic is up overall, so that supports the theory that this is a set of intentional actions to build her audience. Her traffic is always huge, but her quantcast numbers show a big increase around the time her baby was born, and then it went down a little bit, and then over the past month or so (crazy time) it’s been up, up, up. So this might leave a bad taste in our mouths, but maybe it isn’t bad for business, just speaking purely in terms of pageviews.

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Fantasyland September 30, 2009 at 11:39 am

Great article. I am a longtime reader of Dooce (since 2003), and feel she jumped the shark when she posted that bizarre email on the front page. I have a great sense of humor – sometimes quite dry – but that letter was just not funny. It was painful to read; it made my stomach literally knot up. Then I started reading through the comments and was dumbfounded by what her followers were saying. Things like “that was the funniest thing I have read ALL YEAR, f’ing awesome, etc. etc. After that, things seem to be spiraling downward. She’ll still have millions of new followers, but many of the early loyalists have probably already left the building. I still read her because I know that in-between the hate shit, there will still be some wonderful writing.

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anna September 30, 2009 at 1:17 pm

I don’t read her comments anymore because you have to wade through too much weird stuff to get to anything insightful. I still read her posts, and enjoy them. I didn’t really understand the email thing, it seemed like an inside joke or something.

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Fantasyland September 30, 2009 at 11:42 am

And by the way, I have received exactly 3 quick emails back from Heather. They were short and to-the-point, but she took the time to acknowledge my notes. And I’m positive she has answered many others.

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Grizzly September 30, 2009 at 12:27 pm

That wasn’t heather. She doesn’t respond to her own emails. Trust me.

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anna September 30, 2009 at 1:19 pm

I don’t want to get into a big debate about who writes her emails. If somebody got a response from her, that’s awesome. Let’s not hairsplit over whether she wrote them or somebody else wrote them. I’ve never emailed her so I have no frame of reference for whether she responds to her email or not. It’s just kind of an idea that’s “out there” that she doesn’t respond to emails.

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Eliz September 30, 2009 at 1:46 pm

I’m not mentioning this as “proof positive” that she does or doesn’t respond to her e-mails, but at BlogHer ’07, Penelope Trunk (HOLY speaking of crazy) said when she was first blogging and wasn’t sure how to handle really basic situations, she’d call on other bloggers, sort of inconspicuously. When was was wondering if she should answer every e-mail that comes her way, she figured she’d test Dooce. She sent her a brief e-mail and received a very brief reply, so now that’s Penelope’s policy – to answer them all, but not to spend too much time on it. Even back in ’07 Penelope was a big deal (column in the Boston Globe, etc.), so that might have something to do with it.

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Kerry September 30, 2009 at 1:58 pm

That’s interesting, because I got an email from Penelope Trunk, in response to a comment I made on that post not long ago where she talked about her abortions. It was a very short but very nice email. I was completely shocked, because she has a zillion readers and she took the time (especially on a day when hundreds of people were trashing her for the abortion post). I thought it was classy of her.

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anna September 30, 2009 at 2:16 pm

That is interesting. That was part of why I didn’t want to get into the whole “she doesn’t return emails” thing, because you hear that from people who are sending her negative stuff and that’s not really a fair sample.

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Angela September 30, 2009 at 11:49 am

I’ve been a long-time, loyal Dooce reader. Maytag Gate raised a red-flag though. As did the missing person incident. It’s just seemed a little irresponsible to wield one’s power that way. But then she added the hate site, which at first I thought was brilliant. You know, make a buck off your haters, great idea. But the more I read, the sicker I felt. The posts literally put me in a bad mood. I had to stop reading. I can only imagine what receiving that kind of negative energy day in and day out must mentally do to her, but I don’t think sharing the hate is a solution. Hates begats hate, and now there’s all this nasty vibe coming from her site. Dooce has always had fierce fans that will probably defend her to the death. But I think “Monetize the Hate” has turned them into witch hunters. It’s sad that I’m fearful to express an opinion about her, lest I be burned at the stake by the Dooce Troops. I dare say they are just as bad as the Haters.

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anna September 30, 2009 at 1:20 pm

I liked the idea of Monetizing the Hate at first, too. But the reality of it sucks. That stuff sucks. She needs to force herself to stop reading it.

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Kerry September 30, 2009 at 12:25 pm

One of the things I find interesting is that not all of the more recent additions to MTH are actually all that hateful.

The latest post, for example, is really just saying that she should rethink the concept of the MTH site. It’s not the nicest message ever, and unsolicited advice is always annoying…but it’s certainly not on par with the ones about her physical appearance or Leta’s clothes or some of the others (which are truly vile).

One thing I’ve learned in blogging is that when I have someone who’s sending me hateful stuff, I start to look for boogymen. I’ll be dealing with a troll, and a new comment will come, and I’ll be like, “What did he mean by that? Is he calling me an idiot?” And usually it’s just because I have my back up. When you roll around in a little ugly, you start to see ugly everywhere.

I’m wondering if the MTH site hasn’t made Heather and Jon even MORE sensitive to criticism. That just feeds the beast. I get why they’d be tempted to start such a site (and I’ve fantasized about outing my anonymous haters too), but it doesn’t seem to be doing anything positive for them. If there was a point to be made, they’ve surely made it by now.

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anna September 30, 2009 at 1:21 pm

I think that it totally makes you see everything through a different lens. I haven’t even been over to MTH lately, but if that stuff is showing up in your inbox, then no wonder! But it’s time to do something about it that will result in long term change, as you say.

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UNFOLLOW September 30, 2009 at 12:37 pm

Can you believe this? Heather and Jon banned my IP address from dooce.com because I asked her twice who the Wii winners were. Remember all of that a while back where she gave away 5 Wiis and was supposed to post the winners’ names the following day or whatever? Well, I asked her in her comments section on two different posts who the winners were and she never replied; just banned my IP address. I’m totally okay with that because I’ve had more than enough of her drama anyway. As a result of banning my IP address, I actually visit bloggess a lot more often now. I agree with a previous poster–it’s fun to watch Armstrong Media collapse, albeit slowly, that’s what’s happening. Her appearance on The Bonnie Hunt Show also contributed to the recent negativity she’s received. (it’s on YouTube, btw: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stZnZ9mulD0 )

I know 5 other women who have followed dooce for the past 3+ years and they all agree that something has definitely “happened” to Heather. I used to like Heather because it appeared she never let hate mail bother her. She used to post her hate mail and mock the people who sent it to her. Now she’s going to great lengths to call people out or “shed light on” the bugs or however Jon phrased it. I have no idea what they’re trying to do, but it’s not good. Perhaps they need to deflate their heads a little bit and step away from the ledge.

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anna September 30, 2009 at 1:23 pm

Like I said above, I don’t really want to take sides in any previous disagreements that have happened. I feel like I don’t know enough to offer any valid points on those matters, and it’s too much he said, she said. (Or, she said, she said, I guess).

I think the hatemail has bothered her all along, but she’s kept it bottled up. And now it’s all coming out, which is why it’s so exaggerated.

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UNFOLLOW September 30, 2009 at 12:47 pm

Oh, I meant to add, why doesn’t dooce just turn off her comments on her posts? She rarely ever had them turned on in the past and now they are on almost every post. I understand people send her email and they blog about her, but do you really need the gushing from your followers only to moan about the hateful comments later?

Also, some of the hateful comments are really valid (I’m not saying these things need to be said, but I can definitely see where some of the haters are coming from). Life isn’t all roses; there is criticism everywhere– it all depends upon how you choose to view and handle it. Calling people out and being an internet bully is surely not the best approach. The Armstrongs need to realize what they stand to lose as opposed to what their haters stand to lose.

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anna September 30, 2009 at 1:45 pm

Well, she wants to get feedback, I suppose, and a huge amount of her pageviews stem from the comments. So reasonably, turning off comments will cut down her family’s income. And we can’t really judge her for that, because I mean, what would you do?

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maddy September 30, 2009 at 12:49 pm

I am not a dooce fan.

I had no issue with the washing machine thing until she asked the Maytag woman if she cared whether she tweeted about her experience to a million followers. Because I think that is a sign that she was acting like an arrogant ass.

I don’t like her hate page. I don’t like her fans. I don’t like most of what she writes. I don’t care for how she treats people sometimes. I don’t understand her or want to be like her but that is all ok because it makes no difference to my personal life. She is a human being and my policy is to live and let live.

I find it interesting that you haven’t posted any of the comments that dooce haters have posted. Those comments were intended to hurt a person and to control her actions. They were entertaining themselves with being assholes and this particular group has been doing it for years. They wanted to make her stop what? being self centered? wanted to make her stop writing her blog? wanted to make her stop making money off of fans who may not be discerning or in some cases mentally healthy themselves? wanted to make her stop dressing her daughter in clothes they don’t like?

It seems like you and others are implying that it is ok for non-celebrities to bully. They’ve been bullying dooce for a long time. And now they are showing themselves to be hypocrites. I wonder how they would have handled the kind of nastiness they’ve been spewing at her if it was directed at them for all these years?

I wouldn’t do what dooce is doing and I wouldn’t encourage a dialog with rabid fans but seriously, why can’t she call people out when they’ve been intentionally trying to hurt her and pick her apart for years?

Yes, what dooce is doing may be her own downfall. She may not have a website readership after this. Celebrities are supposed to handle these things with stoicism and grace. But why? They’re human too.

I cannot imagine how a reasonable person could get so upset about a blogger that they would feel compelled to write some of the things I have seen these women write. Mind you, they have been saying these things openly, tweeting under their own names, over a long period of time, loooong before she called them out about it. What these women have done for so long says everything about them and who they are and what they value. They’ve harrassed other people before. Seriously, the harrassment and name calling has been aimed at one person after another and gone on for years. It is a hobby.

It is not ok to treat other human beings like garbage just because they are famous and you don’t like them. dooce is not the most empathetic woman on the planet. But neither are the people who treat her like she is not human, who have been doing it for fun. I think they are mentally ill too.

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anna September 30, 2009 at 1:52 pm

I don’t support the people who have dooce hating sites, nor did I suggest that what they do and are doing is right. I could write a post condemning them, but so many others have already done this. What I am concerned with is an online business and how the behavior of its principals is damaging that brand. And what steps can be taken to minimize that damage. Because telling the hate sites to shut down is obviously not going to work.

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maddy September 30, 2009 at 12:50 pm

PS I agree with Kerry that if dooce keeps posting mildly critical messages on the hate page, she is going to turn off and turn away all her reasonable readers.

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maddy September 30, 2009 at 12:54 pm

Another PS
dooce’s recent behavior reminds me of that time when she posted about parking on the street in front of a mentally ill neighbor’s house in a space that she knew would upset the woman, and that she danced around in the yard just to get the woman that much more upset.

This was years ago, when Leta was a baby/toddler. In other words, I think she is having mental health issus of her own right now.

By the way, when she posted that years ago, even though I felt sorry about her mental health issues, I also lost some respect for her.

I don’t think hating on her is going to lead to positive change. I don’t think her response to her personal abusers is going to lead to positive change either.

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anna September 30, 2009 at 1:53 pm

Right, me either. All of it is bad. And maybe it is the sign that something is wrong. If so, somebody needs to be the one to stand up and say it, because clearly it’s not happening in that household.

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fantasyland September 30, 2009 at 1:11 pm

Yes, they were from Heather. (At least 2 out of the 3 were, but all of them were sent way before she had an assistant) Yeah, maybe Jon wrote them, but I sincerely doubt it.

She and Jon were both incredibly nice when I met them at one of last year’s meet and greets. They spent a good amount of time talking with each person in the line. They’re not bad people, but I do believe the fame has kind of gone to their heads. But I do hope they rethink their strategy when it comes to the haters. She needs to keep doing what she does best, and ignore the trolls.

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anna September 30, 2009 at 1:54 pm

I agree. Ignore the real trolls, engage with criticism. Try to learn from mistakes, and that’s really all anybody can ask. But if you don’t do that, or if you keep acting out, people are going to eventually get tired of your bullshit.

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Avoiceofmyown September 30, 2009 at 1:37 pm

Yes Anna I couldn’t agree more with what you’re saying. A brand that you have for yourself is very important. When you have a fan base (if this is the right word) they trust you judgment, and when you abuse your power, you lose the trust of your readers. I myself have very few readers, I’ve been blogging for 2.5 years but have changed blogs 3 times which is probably why, but if do get a large readership I wouldn’t let it go to my head.

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anna September 30, 2009 at 1:55 pm

I think we all hope we wouldn’t, and it’s good to point out here that we’re all offering our conjecture, since we haven’t had to deal with what she does.

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