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		<title>By: Erin Youngren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erin Youngren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Anna!

I too have never commented but I&#039;ll go ahead and chime in on this one! I completely understand where you&#039;re coming from with the advice of finding a talented photographer on Craigslist. In the situations where you simply don&#039;t have the money for another solution, this is the kind of advice that makes sense in many ways. You just have to be that much more critical about who you decide to hire off of Craigslist - it can go either very very good or VERY VERY bad with these kinds of things, which I think is what you&#039;re getting at.

The part of your advice that I do feel uneasy about is the part about buying the original digital negatives. My husband and I are pro wedding photographers and we give each of our couples a copy of the final edited images from their wedding. This is something that I feel the couple should definitely have for many reasons. However, if a photographer is willing to give you the original files, I would be extremely hesitant to even hire them. This is not a legitimate business practice in any way shape or form and really is a red flag for me. Most photographers don&#039;t shoot on JPGs files anymore (they&#039;re too small to edit correctly - especially if you don&#039;t know what you&#039;re doing), but we shoot on much larger files that a consumer can&#039;t even view, much less process, on their computers without certain professional programs (not Photoshop - we use different software meant for professionals only), so this advice (I don&#039;t mean to offend) can&#039;t even be done with most situations. 

I could go on, but the bottom line is please, please, please don&#039;t edit your own images! Its not worth it. Let a pro handle making you look fabulous, even if that pro is from Craigslist. :) 

Again, this is just my 50 cents from years of experience with working with brides, vendors, and images. I always love reading the blog and really appreciate how its so thoughtful!

Erin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Anna!</p>
<p>I too have never commented but I&#8217;ll go ahead and chime in on this one! I completely understand where you&#8217;re coming from with the advice of finding a talented photographer on Craigslist. In the situations where you simply don&#8217;t have the money for another solution, this is the kind of advice that makes sense in many ways. You just have to be that much more critical about who you decide to hire off of Craigslist &#8211; it can go either very very good or VERY VERY bad with these kinds of things, which I think is what you&#8217;re getting at.</p>
<p>The part of your advice that I do feel uneasy about is the part about buying the original digital negatives. My husband and I are pro wedding photographers and we give each of our couples a copy of the final edited images from their wedding. This is something that I feel the couple should definitely have for many reasons. However, if a photographer is willing to give you the original files, I would be extremely hesitant to even hire them. This is not a legitimate business practice in any way shape or form and really is a red flag for me. Most photographers don&#8217;t shoot on JPGs files anymore (they&#8217;re too small to edit correctly &#8211; especially if you don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;re doing), but we shoot on much larger files that a consumer can&#8217;t even view, much less process, on their computers without certain professional programs (not Photoshop &#8211; we use different software meant for professionals only), so this advice (I don&#8217;t mean to offend) can&#8217;t even be done with most situations. </p>
<p>I could go on, but the bottom line is please, please, please don&#8217;t edit your own images! Its not worth it. Let a pro handle making you look fabulous, even if that pro is from Craigslist. <img src='http://www.abdpbt.com/personalfinance/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Again, this is just my 50 cents from years of experience with working with brides, vendors, and images. I always love reading the blog and really appreciate how its so thoughtful!</p>
<p>Erin</p>
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		<title>By: Shannon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol....Maybe you could do a post about pro photogs someday ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol&#8230;.Maybe you could do a post about pro photogs someday <img src='http://www.abdpbt.com/personalfinance/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: anna</title>
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		<dc:creator>anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Shannon -- thanks for commenting! I know how hard working as a photographer is, actually, since my husband has done it a few times (this is not his job, but he&#039;s done it on the side as a hobby). It&#039;s exhausting, demanding work when you&#039;re shooting, and time-consuming when you&#039;re editing. And people don&#039;t really understand what a pro photographer adds to a picture. I think my post came across as dismissive of the value of a pro photographer, which is unfortunate, because I do highly value and admire the work of professional photographers. My point was more of the &quot;you cannot afford a pro photographer&quot; variety . . . it&#039;s just one of many choices, and some people have different priorities, don&#039;t really get the value of a seasoned professional, etc. And I also know that there are people who do pro photography who have inflated prices, which is not to suggest *in any way* that this is true all the time, just that it does happen. The unfortunate reality is that the general public does not look at their purchases critically. They might want to have gorgeous wedding photos, but they just cannot afford them. In the case of that, I have to give them the option of Craigslist, just because it&#039;s a way of getting a photographer there when you&#039;re on a very tight budget. 

I do think that the amateurs with new camera technology have contributed to a misunderstanding about what talent it takes to be a pro photographer. And I also think that people are not particularly skilled at assessing work -- you can hit the saturation button in Photoshop and fool some people into thinking you&#039;re a good photographer -- I know, because I do it all the time! :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Shannon &#8212; thanks for commenting! I know how hard working as a photographer is, actually, since my husband has done it a few times (this is not his job, but he&#8217;s done it on the side as a hobby). It&#8217;s exhausting, demanding work when you&#8217;re shooting, and time-consuming when you&#8217;re editing. And people don&#8217;t really understand what a pro photographer adds to a picture. I think my post came across as dismissive of the value of a pro photographer, which is unfortunate, because I do highly value and admire the work of professional photographers. My point was more of the &#8220;you cannot afford a pro photographer&#8221; variety . . . it&#8217;s just one of many choices, and some people have different priorities, don&#8217;t really get the value of a seasoned professional, etc. And I also know that there are people who do pro photography who have inflated prices, which is not to suggest *in any way* that this is true all the time, just that it does happen. The unfortunate reality is that the general public does not look at their purchases critically. They might want to have gorgeous wedding photos, but they just cannot afford them. In the case of that, I have to give them the option of Craigslist, just because it&#8217;s a way of getting a photographer there when you&#8217;re on a very tight budget. </p>
<p>I do think that the amateurs with new camera technology have contributed to a misunderstanding about what talent it takes to be a pro photographer. And I also think that people are not particularly skilled at assessing work &#8212; you can hit the saturation button in Photoshop and fool some people into thinking you&#8217;re a good photographer &#8212; I know, because I do it all the time! <img src='http://www.abdpbt.com/personalfinance/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Shannon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First off, I&#039;d like to say I love reading this blog! But this is the first time I&#039;ve commented. I too am a professional photographer, and I unfortunately disagree with your advice. In recent years the art of photography has been devalued and degraded with everyone and their mom starting a &quot;photography business&quot;.  You&#039;re not just paying a photographer for the time they are at your wedding. I estimate I have at least 30 hours into one wedding. I also have a lot of business costs to keep up with. And I would like to make enough to put food on the table and pay my bills, but I can&#039;t do all that charging $1000 for a wedding even if I&#039;d have one every weekend. It seems like there is a lot of advice out there to try and find a &quot;cheap&quot; photographer off of craigslist, but this is one of the biggest mistakes you can make, unless you truly don&#039;t care about having quality photos of your wedding, and in that case why hire someone at all? There is a mentality now that photographers who actually charge enough to make a living are ripping people off. That is not the case- they just want to make enough to live. *stepping off my soapbox* (I hope you don&#039;t take anything I said the wrong way, it is not my intention to offend anyone )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off, I&#8217;d like to say I love reading this blog! But this is the first time I&#8217;ve commented. I too am a professional photographer, and I unfortunately disagree with your advice. In recent years the art of photography has been devalued and degraded with everyone and their mom starting a &#8220;photography business&#8221;.  You&#8217;re not just paying a photographer for the time they are at your wedding. I estimate I have at least 30 hours into one wedding. I also have a lot of business costs to keep up with. And I would like to make enough to put food on the table and pay my bills, but I can&#8217;t do all that charging $1000 for a wedding even if I&#8217;d have one every weekend. It seems like there is a lot of advice out there to try and find a &#8220;cheap&#8221; photographer off of craigslist, but this is one of the biggest mistakes you can make, unless you truly don&#8217;t care about having quality photos of your wedding, and in that case why hire someone at all? There is a mentality now that photographers who actually charge enough to make a living are ripping people off. That is not the case- they just want to make enough to live. *stepping off my soapbox* (I hope you don&#8217;t take anything I said the wrong way, it is not my intention to offend anyone )</p>
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		<title>By: Toddriffic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toddriffic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>12. Cupcakes!</description>
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		<title>By: anna</title>
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		<dc:creator>anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Becka,

Fair enough -- in every profession, there are people who are experienced, cost more, and are worth it. But I am talking about ways to cut your budget, if you decide that photography is an area where you&#039;d like to cut. From what I understand about photography, there are technical skills and then there is a kind of artistic &quot;know-how&quot; that cannot be taught, exactly, like an instinct -- much like writing, I suppose. I think if photography is a priority for a bride, then she should by all means seek out that professional with technical skill *and* that artistic gift. But that still doesn&#039;t mean that she has to pay for more than the pictures being taken -- in my mind, that is what the photographer does that cannot be done elsewhere, capturing the moment. My point was about paying for that capture, and then using tools available to you to edit pictures because you don&#039;t absolutely have to have the photographer do that for you if you know how to use photoshop well.

It&#039;s like my dress, I spent an unholy amount of money buying a Monique L&#039;huillier dress. I&#039;m sure a bunch of people thought I was insane, but it was important to me, however silly, that I buy that dress, and not a knock-off or whatever. Some people will feel that way about going to a photographer, and that&#039;s cool. I just want to try to get people thinking about what they are buying, because although I totally believe there are expensive photographers who are worth it, I also believe there are expensive photographers who are NOT worth it. People just have to learn to look at things critically, particularly if they are on a tight budget.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Becka,</p>
<p>Fair enough &#8212; in every profession, there are people who are experienced, cost more, and are worth it. But I am talking about ways to cut your budget, if you decide that photography is an area where you&#8217;d like to cut. From what I understand about photography, there are technical skills and then there is a kind of artistic &#8220;know-how&#8221; that cannot be taught, exactly, like an instinct &#8212; much like writing, I suppose. I think if photography is a priority for a bride, then she should by all means seek out that professional with technical skill *and* that artistic gift. But that still doesn&#8217;t mean that she has to pay for more than the pictures being taken &#8212; in my mind, that is what the photographer does that cannot be done elsewhere, capturing the moment. My point was about paying for that capture, and then using tools available to you to edit pictures because you don&#8217;t absolutely have to have the photographer do that for you if you know how to use photoshop well.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like my dress, I spent an unholy amount of money buying a Monique L&#8217;huillier dress. I&#8217;m sure a bunch of people thought I was insane, but it was important to me, however silly, that I buy that dress, and not a knock-off or whatever. Some people will feel that way about going to a photographer, and that&#8217;s cool. I just want to try to get people thinking about what they are buying, because although I totally believe there are expensive photographers who are worth it, I also believe there are expensive photographers who are NOT worth it. People just have to learn to look at things critically, particularly if they are on a tight budget.</p>
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		<title>By: Becka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Becka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a pro photographer I disagree highly with this. Most people can not do the same work as seasoned professionals even if the photographer they work with will allow them to purchase the files (which more legitimate businesspeople will not allow).

I have had so many brides call me in tears after their wedding asking if I can do an anniversary shoot for them just so they can have some good photos because they hired someone off craigslist who was uninsured, unprofessional, new, and had no idea what they were doing. 

With photography, you very much get what you pay for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a pro photographer I disagree highly with this. Most people can not do the same work as seasoned professionals even if the photographer they work with will allow them to purchase the files (which more legitimate businesspeople will not allow).</p>
<p>I have had so many brides call me in tears after their wedding asking if I can do an anniversary shoot for them just so they can have some good photos because they hired someone off craigslist who was uninsured, unprofessional, new, and had no idea what they were doing. </p>
<p>With photography, you very much get what you pay for.</p>
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		<title>By: anna</title>
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		<dc:creator>anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooh, brunch is a great idea!</description>
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		<title>By: Kerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 13:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That cake is amazing.

We got married in a tiny historic chapel up north (&quot;up north&quot; is the pretty part of Wisconsin) with just immediate family.  Then, later, we had a Sunday brunch reception on one of those dinner cruise boats.  Many of our attendees were from a rural area, and every wedding up there is exactly the same:  same hall, same menu, same decor, same DJ.  We wanted to give them something different.  Also, Sunday brunch is a time when even people who tend to drink a whole lot will drink less, and that was a concern with a couple of family members (for behavioral reasons, not financial ones).

We actually got thank-you notes from a few of the rural attendees, who thought it was a very big deal to have a champagne brunch on a boat.  They&#039;re still talking about it...and we got married with no debt at all.

Also, I got a $1000 wedding dress for $137 because it was a sample size.  To this day it&#039;s still my best bargain ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That cake is amazing.</p>
<p>We got married in a tiny historic chapel up north (&#8220;up north&#8221; is the pretty part of Wisconsin) with just immediate family.  Then, later, we had a Sunday brunch reception on one of those dinner cruise boats.  Many of our attendees were from a rural area, and every wedding up there is exactly the same:  same hall, same menu, same decor, same DJ.  We wanted to give them something different.  Also, Sunday brunch is a time when even people who tend to drink a whole lot will drink less, and that was a concern with a couple of family members (for behavioral reasons, not financial ones).</p>
<p>We actually got thank-you notes from a few of the rural attendees, who thought it was a very big deal to have a champagne brunch on a boat.  They&#8217;re still talking about it&#8230;and we got married with no debt at all.</p>
<p>Also, I got a $1000 wedding dress for $137 because it was a sample size.  To this day it&#8217;s still my best bargain ever.</p>
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